The late Mogok Sayadaw Gyi, Agga Maha Pandita, Sayadaw U Vimala gave this talk 'Thardu tan ka ma nay bel - Nyan tan ka nay bar ' on 15th August 1962 . Sayadaw Gyi passed away in October 1962 and was believed to have attained Nibbana and had delivered more than a thousand one-hour talks mostly from his base monasteries in Mogok and Amarapura, in Upper Burma.