Los Angeles' California's Greenhouse Effect with their muddy 'college rock' mini-anthem "Racers' from 1987 !! The sludgey guitars hit with power from the guy who started it all! Guitarist Phil Keegan (Dr. Phil) 'invented' grunge rock or as he says; "In the early days, i would experiment getting these weird distorted wrythm guitar tones that at first i thought sounded like shit ...i had a Fender amp and i would be constantly tweaking around because i had a wah wah peddle and it would feedback and distort till my ears would literally bleed,...i remember that Shark suggested that i up the midrange and the bass and reduce the treble and i was like 'no,..thats gonna sound like crap',...but on 'Racers', it worked to perfection...Hagins just threw on these weird vocals and lyrics but what people must remember is that G.e. wasn't at all a solo project; We were a band! As far as alot of Clark's claims,..well i have to agree...i have read where it is said he was pretty careless when it came to protecting our ideas n shit and me having been there back then,..i am an eye witness; we did indeed invent alot of shit - that today is mainstream,..yeah i'll take credit,..i would say its way more me than Clark,..but he did come along with that David Bowie Ziggy shit that went right with my guitar and we had this Syd Barret Iron Butterfly 1968 thing that was real, man...we were the shit in town...as far as the Wilson park shows, ..yeah man, we were the real deal - those were incredibly fun times,...but Hagins definitely stepped on some toes here n there,....and now i'm reading around the net and realise he had other people working with him mailing our shit around,..yeah i feel they got some critical secrets stolen no doubt,..today when i hear shit like Nirvana on the radio - that breaks my heart ,..because that band is nowhere near in a league with G.e. ,..and if you think Kurt Cobain can play guitar as good as me on Precarious or Number one, you better think again my friend !...and don't give me that shit about the pain game,..because in G.e., we had more real pain then Kurt Cobain will ever know,...i mean we're from the South Bay and Redondo beach ,..its a buncha fuckin' crazy people there man,..its beyond competitive,...you gotta be fuckin' good ,..and thats even if yer in some weak little punk band,..you gotta atleast have a great drummer n shit and have your songwriting together ! yeah, i'm the guy that really started grunge,..but I'm a lead player,...first - but if music sucks now, ..i'll take responsibilty if it means some of those record labels down there in Hollywood are losing money !! MORE POWER TO THAT SHIT !!"....Am i bitter and do i think they could have and SHOULD HAVE signed Ge in 1988 ?? hell yes they should have !! we could use some clapton Blackmore today, yardbirds instead of more 311 and Red Hots...